Iron Edge
Iron Edge => Recruitment => PvP Recruitment => Topic started by: Nynevi on August 29, 2011, 06:20:31 pm
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Sercan AKMAN
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Student, Istanbul University, Spanish Philology | British Philology (Lateral Branch)
- Where do you want to be in ten years from now?
I applied for a job at Blizzard, let's see what response I'll get first :P I will probably be studying other language disciplines as well as working as a translator somewhere.
- When have you started playing and why?
It has been six years, I was 15 back then and I barely could speak my own language, let alone English, I started playing this game and doing PvP all the time, since It was hard to get into a guild of organized players with no language skills and also even with English I did not really have the capacity of mind and computer hardware to support continual play to be doing PvE.
My first character was a mage (Darktr-Burning Legion, still level 70) and my second character is a warrior (Draqotr-Darksorrow), I did not really play with the mage at all but I have been playing with the warrior since then. I have done arena but never achieved high ratings due to the instability of my gameplay (continuity, I did not have a credit card and pre-paids were not sold in Turkey at that time. I played 2 months then quit for a month and came back for another month and quit for another, for example, nor did I find partners on that server)
At some part of the game, I was fed up with dying against Alliance and not being saved by some healer, unlike Alliance. Alliance on our server was superior and had always some healer saving them from low percent health points. I decided to make a paladin and leveled it in 2 play days. I had been playing on Darksorrow until several months ago, when I had the spare money for the transfer of my character. I came to the server and joined a Turkish oriented PvP guild and got 23xx rated battleground rating (I had a lot of exams, I was unable to make him a High Warlord) and got to 2200 the first week with a TSG setup. I played with druid warrior paladin trio got up to 2000 but went for a vacation for a month and when I got back It did not work.
As you can check from my warrior, I am Conqueror and got the vintage title Centurion and I have been doing battleground for 6 years, and I know them inside out. Have done some clever tactics in this season also, got to 1900 with my paladin but left the guild because It was not fun to play with them anymore. (I had 2600 MMR last season and lost quite a few matches on alt runs in my former guild and I'm guessing its around 2200-2300 right now)
- Why do you want to join Iron Edge?
I want to join to IE because I think other than a character transfer, this guild suits best to my needs in terms of PvP. I have been in Turkish oriented guilds the whole Cataclysm and due to the reason we could understand each other, things got quite intimate and they started judging the gameplay of one another and telling things that can not be told to a person that you only know online. I only want to play peacefully with people who talk actively on the voice chat, telling their ccs and the incs, nothing more, the rest will come in time (like higher ratings).
I know Revor, the paladin, I met with him in trade when I was looking someone to cap my points in 2v2, he taught my some useful things about retribution.
- http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/darksorrow/Draqotr/simple
- http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/Nynevi/simple
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Nice application dude.
Good Luck !
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thanks :)
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casual or hardcore raid app?
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This is the PvP section Jaca.
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The hardest core ever Jasminka :P
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Hi there!
We don't really have a need for paladins of any spec. So I regret to inform you that we cannot take any more paladins in at this time.
Thank you for applying to the Iron Edge PvP team, and you're always free to poke me or someone else about rbg's with the B-team or something!
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Please remove this thread.
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Please remove this thread.
We never remove any tread.
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Ya, sorry Nynevi, we don't generally remove forum threads unless they are spam.
If you have a good reason to remove it, let me know and we'll re-assess.
-D
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So it doesn't turn up on google searches? :)
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Ya, that's the normal reason.
I don't have a problem with removing his name -- but to be honest, it will already be on the search engines by now.
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The thing is that there is no thread about classes that are open to recruitment. It means that even though you do not need paladins, you want them to apply, see how good they are and make an exception based on the application.
I made a good application, as you ask in your PvP recruitment guidelines, with punctuations and stuff, despite that high percent of the people apply here has never heard of beginning a new paragraph. I guess that adds me 1 point.
I also showed proof of my skill (not that high but good enough to be noticed) I guess that adds me another point.
In other words, If I am a paladin with 2700 3v3 rating, would you invite me to the guild If my application was bad (so it is 1 or 1,5 point because his rating is pretty high; you are making an exception here compared to the 2 point guy),
If I am a paladin with the best application ever made, and you invite me despite the absence of some skill proof (or despite the fact that I have over 1800-1900 3v3 rating, that gives me 0.5 points as the guy with 2700 rating gets 1.5 points), you invite him making an exception, compared to the 2 point guy,
So I ask you: If you are not going to make an exception, why is not there a thread about class recruitment?
If you were going to make an exception, what was wrong about my application?
And also why do you ask people to make a good application (there is no class thread, that means you will give the guy some credit for making a good application; If otherwise, that means you will not give the guy some credit, atleast write that good applications do not matter (so do not ask for them) people with atleast 2400 arena rating or 2400 actual battleground rating or mmr should apply(numbers may change), the rest will be ignored.
The thing that should pop in your mind is that how oneself can know the thing he made is good or bad; I know I made it good because the recruiter does not say anything about my application, neither it was good or bad so that again creates two questions in the vicious circle; Was my application bad so that you came up with some other excuse like "we are full on paladins", or was it actually so that you are full on paladins, then why the hell there is not a recruitment thread, why do we waste our time? So that basically turns into the first paragraph, that means you want to see applications and make an application, and this goes onto this line and goes on and on in an infinite loop.
Also, me wanting this thread removed without a reason is a pretty good enough reason for it to be removed actually. I do not want people to see how I was declined. That just discourages me towards making applications at all, not even good ones.
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He would make exception if you were exceptional player. You arent. So no exception. Now, please stop being hurt about the fact you had to write application. You can use it for other guild if you want, it's not end of the world.
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You're right, it would be handy to have a list of our currently-required classes for the PVP group.
Therash, you could update some forum post once a week, right?
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I am not hurt at all and yeah it is not end of the world, in fact I was not going to bring this up until you declined removing my thread, since I was already okay with being declined not going on this matter further.
Also delling, thank you, this was not a whining post, instead I was looking a real reason behind my decline, and the spot balance seems to be the real one.
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Hey there!
Let me start off by saying I'm sorry for the short reply on your (indeed) very nice application. You deserved better from me.
The main reason I declined you was because of your class indeed. After adding Bawmord to our team, I really don't have a place for you on the team right now.
The second reason I declined you was because you seemed to be inexperienced. I based this on things you mentioned in your application like:
and got to 2200 the first week with a TSG setup. I played with druid warrior paladin trio got up to 2000 but went for a vacation for a month and when I got back It did not work.
Your stats suggest that your highest ratings in 3v3 are around 2200, and your story backs that up. 2200 isn't a rating that I would consider very high, especially when playing TSG. Why did warrior/druid/paladin not work? Seems to work pretty well to me!
I had 2600 MMR last season and lost quite a few matches on alt runs in my former guild and I'm guessing its around 2200-2300 right now)
Lastly, if you are certain your MMR was 2600+ last season, you should also know that it didn't mean anything at all. You must have noticed the horrible bug in the system that ruined the entire season. As playing with only turbo-bads made your MMR skyrocket.
Once again, sorry for not putting all this information in my first response.
I also forgot to mention that you are always free to poke Zeref, Slash, Spinser, Revor and me for any rbg's with alts and other fun groups. We do them a lot. And who knows, maybe I've gotten a completely wrong impression of you and we can trial you anyway!
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You're right, it would be handy to have a list of our currently-required classes for the PVP group.
Therash, you could update some forum post once a week, right?
The "currently-required classes" are only a priority thing. We'll consider those applications easier, simply because we need them. I'm not announcing that publicly because I don't want applications to be shit.
And as Narw (kinda) said, I'll consider anyone with a good application. It happens many times that I consider people just because they're nice. And I also invite less experienced people to RBG's because the main-team-people don't show up. If there's one thing I've learned from leading a PvP-team; You can never have enough back-up players :P
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Very true!
Thanks for sorting this one out :)
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Thanks for explanations. Yeah I know MMR means nothing but I remember you asking MMR to an applicant in an application. Since MMR drops down your team rating I thought it is worth mentioning.
Well I would agree with you on TSG, DK was overpowered back then and also my dk friend had elite weapon which made it easier. Though the point was to let you see that on the server that I came I was unable to achieve any rating due to the people I played with, but when I came to Dunemaul, I played with good guys and fulfilled my potential and got to what I had aimed fast. We did not play anymore matches because I was waiting to gather some points for my elite two handed sword, we might have gotten higher but that would just point out the overpowerness of TSG again.
I have also achieved 2.1k 5v5 rating with BM/RSham/DK/FMage/HPala, though as the player quantitiy increases, the amount of faults that a player can do increases, some other guy fixes the other ones fault. I guess we cannot count this one as an achievement.
When I came back from vacation, one team mate had left the team and other one had started working, that is why it did not work. The reason I do not play with my paladin and try to improve it is the feeling that no matter what I achieve, no matter what I write in my application or no matter how better I make it a good read, I will be declined. Due to the recent events of my former guild I am in a spot where I feel weird trying out new things like different setups. There are several setups that we have planned on doing but did not have a chance to meet up yet, since it is summer and we had a religious holiday recently.
I was already hesitating on applying for IE, as I see a lot of holy and retribution paladins of IE with high ratings, I already knew my chances of getting into the main team would be slim. I am already a month late on my conquest points and gears and I also have all the titles till Warlord and 300-400 rating behind the current guys, I did not expect to get into the main team this season but maybe the next, but meanwhile I wanted my paladin to be in a good guild with atleast some guys with criterias (I do not think your alt team is any bad from your main team since once a guy does his job and knows the game and has achieved high rating, it is easy for him to play other classes too) and cap my points till the next season.
As I said, other than a migration, I will not make an application on some other guild, accept me as a community member or social, I do not know; my character will be around guildless till I figure something out. You are free to kick or ask me to leave if you do not like my gameplay when you try me out in one of your teams.
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goddamn edit button!
Correction: 2014 5v5 rating rofl.
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You seem like a smart person (maybe a bit too serious!) and it seems you do really want to join it here. Alt/bteam/pvers rated bg's vary from week to week, sometimes someone will try to make it 3 times a week, sometimes it will be up once. Also there are new ppl there every week, mmr varies from what i saw from 1800-2k, depending on who plays. You will also need to show BIIIIIIIIIIIIIG patience when playing with pvers.
I dont write this to discourage you, just that's how it goes if you do really want to join on that "i will try to prove myself in b/alt team". My best advice for you would be just to spam arena games and hopefully get yourself a safe cap from there, and a bit more expieriance also. For A team i would't mind trying you, but our healers are quite active and have way bigger expierienace than you do have currently.
(or you can reroll shaman and let us bask in the glory of godmode totem).
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I have 62 shaman that I am leveling right now, I am pretty more comfortable playing with resto, interrupts and purges are way too easy and totem power is incredible, though also it has its downsides compared to the paladin.
I will be working on him.
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Looks like you've got a great thing going with that shaman :)
Get some experience in PvP and we'll talk again.
Good luck!