Northrend another expension?

[Bombardi]

Hey guys

i thought vorte said something about some new expansion pack called northrend..

can you guys give me some info about it? when does it come out etc? i think ill return for northrend if my marks are OK! 

Cheers

[Entranze]

Wrath of the Lich King is the next expansion. It will be Northrend yes.

[Proteus]

here is hoping said expansion comes bundled with updated lvl 60-70 raid/dungeon content aswell. Ah, Stratholme, AQ40, how i miss thee.

[Entranze]

Well actually you will go together with the non-corrupted Arthas killing the civilians in Old Stratholme (CoT instance for lvl 80).

A new and rewamped lvl 80 25 man Naxxramas is the first raid instance to overcome in Northrend.

I've heard nothing of Ahn Quraij. But the Nerubians should be just about the same (and if the rumours are true) the other part of C'thun/another old god to kill up there.

[Ahkailon]

From the book: "The two empires".
"Two Aqiri city-states emerged -- Azjol-Nerub in the northern wastes, and Ahn'Qiraj in the southern desert."

Azjol-Nerub lies in Northerend, and when Arthas and Anub'Aarak went through the tunnels of the kingdom during "The frozen throne" they encountered a being much similar to C'thun. Anub'arak refered to it as one of the forgotten ones, which implies that there where more than one. They killed the thing then, but since blizzard have all ready said that (at least I think they did) things that happen in WoW will have no direct effect on the Warcraft lore it might as well reemerge under some petty excuse from blizzards lore makers.
As Endre says there has been speculations that C'thun was divided in two when he fell, which would explain the two similar mobs and why an old god can be killed by two (powerfull, but non the less two) men, and by a gathering of mortals.
However, the forgotten ones might just be some lesser versions of C'thun, his servants perhaps. Maybe Blizz will take Ahn'Qiraj and change some graphics and some bosses and put it into Northerend somewhere underground. I doubt it though, and it would be a shame to copy pasta Azjol-Nerub when its inhabitants were so different from the inhabitants of Ahn'Qiraj.

Interesting read if you haven't seen it all ready: http://wow.mondespersistants.com/?article=403&page_art=2

[kawe]

Erm, Anub'arak is hardly counted as a man I think XD

Plus, imo, the Old Gods maybe aren't really as powerful as the name might imply?

[Daekesh]

C'thun was a 63 elite... Anub a 73 and Arthas is 83.  Not surprising they can kill an old god.  If I remember rightly, though, c'thun had lost a significant amount of strength when he was imprisoned.  Perhaps he wasn't as strong as the rest of the old gods when he was killed?

[Entranze]

Err... The levels of mobs/bosses is just the progression through the game. It does not really show how powerful they are (Since f.ex every raid boss before TBC was level "63". For example the end boss in Shadowfang Keep (can't remember his name) is really a very powerful wizard, but he is such a low level because he is early in the progression of WoW.

Indeed Arthas will be level 83, but won't all the other raid bosses in WotLK be the same?

C'thun was merely a image of his previous power, and if the rumours are correct, he even got split in half when he was thrown onto the wastelands of Azeroth and then imprisoned. He remained locked far below the earth for no idea how long, before the Sundering of the World took place with the destruction of the Well of Eternity. He got released from his chains and his 2 parts (?) started building up a immence force from the Aqiri empire which was split in half during the sundering. The southerns part, later known as the Silithid of Qiraj, built up a empire so large with the help of the C'thun we know now, and was a real threat to the sivilisations on Kalimdor at that time, and so in a part I don't really remember that well, they got imprisoned behind the wall that parted Kalimdor from the Qirajan empire (which we have opened...).

While that was happening, the othe part (?) of C'thun came into Northrend and from there possibly evolved the Aqiri into the Nerubians. Remember that still only a shadow of his former self, the creature is incredibly strong.

After the Lich King got his "throne" in Northrend, he transformed every living creature on Northrend into the undead scourge to serve him. But the Nerubians was immune to his disease and because of that, the War of the Spider began. It ended with most nerubians dead and ressurected by the Lich King to serve him (Amongst them Anub'rekhan). The remaining Nerubians is possibly the ones transformed into the forgotten ones (or C'thuns part actually raised them to serve himself).


Copied and pasted from WoWwiki.com since people are most lilkely too lazy to click links and read:
-Old Gods are known to be among the most powerful beings that ever walked Azeroth. No one knows their true names or nature. All that is known is that there were five of them. The young world was theirs and they ruled it as they pleased. Azeroth was overwhelmed by elemental storms and Old Gods held tyranny over it. When the Titans came, millennia, eons passed during fights against the five Old Gods. One was killed, and its remains can be seen at the Master's Glaive in Darkshore, Kalimdor with an immense sword piercing its skull; others were defeated. Three were weakened (although still powerful beyond mortal comprehension), while one, C'Thun fell into the barren lands of Silithus. Fell, but didn't die.

For countless ages, C'Thun would sleep and watch as races evolved, fought each other, saw invasion of the Legion and still, created plans for the future - its future. In the desert into which it fell, C'Thun found primitive life-forms known as the Silithid. The Old God created avatars from the Silithid in its own image. These avatars were to be known as the Qiraji, a sapient race that would come to occupy Silithus. The great fortress city of Ahn'Qiraj was created to house their growing armies and prepare for the coming of C'Thun.

From in-game texts:
The Gurubashi and Amani [Troll] empires had little love for one another, but rarely warred against each other. At the time, their greatest common enemy was a third empire - the civilization of Azi Aqir. The Aqir were intelligent insectoids who ruled the lands of the far west. These clever insectoids were greatly expansionistic and incredibly evil. The Aqir were obsessed with eradicating all non-insect life from the fields of Kalimdor.
The trolls fought them for many thousands of years, but never succeeded in winning a true victory over the Aqir. Eventually, due to the trolls' persistence, the Aqiri kingdom split in half as its citizens fled to separate colonies in the far northern and southern regions of the continent.
Two Aqiri city-states emerged - Azjol-Nerub in the northern wastes, and Ahn'Qiraj in the southern desert. Though the trolls suspected that there were other Aqiri colonies beneath Kalimdor, their existence was never verified.

Centuries later the Qiraji waged a war against the Night Elves and the dragons, to claim territory for the glorious and cataclysmic arrival of C'Thun. To prevent the invasion, Ahn'Qiraj was sealed with the Scarab Dais using the combined magic of both the dragons and Night Elves.

For thousands of years, the Qiraji worked tirelessly to resurrect C'Thun in its true physical form.

Now, the Scarab Dais has been opened, and the War of the Shifting Sands will reach its conclusion. Rumors circulate that C'Thun is present here with its great, horrifying lidless Eye, surrounded by a sea of tentacles and will vaporize every ignorant mortal who thinks of daring to challenge its supreme power and right to the world of Azeroth.

C'Thun bears a striking resemblance to the Forgotten One beneath Azjol'Nerub in Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne.


This one is too big to copy and paste: http://www.wowwiki.com/Old_God
And not to mention a little note of http://www.wowwiki.com/Old_Gods_speculation

[Smorisha]

Very nice read, thank u very much. I never bothered to follow lore more than mentioned in game so far but this is really interesting. I wish they make a book and/or a movie, it would be really really good.

[Daekesh]

They are making a movie.  There are *loads* of books.

[delling]

C'thun would be great in a movie...

Can you say... CTHULU?

[Ahkailon]

While that was happening, the othe part (?) of C'thun came into Northrend and from there possibly evolved the Aqiri into the Nerubians. Remember that still only a shadow of his former self, the creature is incredibly strong.

Afaik, the Nerubians were never to happy about C'thuns second part (or the forgotten ones). They evolved into a great and intelligent specie, and were never too malevolent (except when kidnapping an elf to conduct experiments on them). They had great buildings and sat on great amounts of knowledge before Arthas came and killed most of them. However, deep beneath their lair there are rumored to be beings referred to as "the faceless ones" who are more likely to serve the other part of the old god (assuming he really got split in two). There are a few links between them, the most prominent being Hakkar (in ZG). Hakkar is referred to as "the faceless one/faceless god" or something along the lines of that by some random troll. He also drops the Fang of the Faceless. He demands blood sacrifice from the trolls to the old gods.

Since it is never specified how the avatars of C'thun looked like, it may be possible that these faceless ones, or forgotten ones are the avatars. After the split of the Azj'Aqir empire, C'thun obviously lost "control" over the Azjol-Nerub "sub-empire" therefore after the countless millennia since the split, it may be possible that the faceless ones are the avatars of C'thun.

Wowwiki on the faceless ones: http://www.wowwiki.com/Faceless_One

[Thecurse]

pfff nothing about old fun MC or BWL

[Auran]

pfff nothing about old fun MC or BWL

I Agree, Thecurse - I mean... Am I the only one who does really not care about this Star Wars/Alien/Starship Troopers hybrid kind of storyside of WOW?

The story itself is so complex, that it even requires some pseudo-scientific theoretical mumbojumbo to explain it all...

greetz,
a maybe bit too simplistic Aur.

[Ahkailon]

Most of the lore is not sci-fi mumbojumbo like the Draenai bullshit they coughed up .
Interesting read really. Ragnaros is a lutenant of the old gods, and Nefarian and Onyxia are the children of Deathwing. Read up on the dragonfligths if you want old wow .