So lets talk about cheese.

[Abyiss]

Yeh i got proxy pyloned and barreks yesterday, BUT this gave me a valuable lesson in base scouting properly and the next times this has happened, iv not been cheesed.

One you deflect a cheese strike, your opponent is easily over run. So you win outright as your economy is greater.

The thing im struggling with atm is, Void rays... and vikings, so its about the 6 min mark, i cant get lings past there wall, so tech up and expand.

Before i know whats going on 6 void rays/vikings come rolling in to win the game at the 9 min mark.


As a zerg, how can you prevent this. I normaly have 2 queens at main, wich is fine to keep 1-3 away but any more, then its GG and panic to pump out hydra/mutas/spore crawlers. but Mutas are expensive and get eaten by vikings.

Any advice?

Hydralisks

Hydras are so imobile, once the attack comes  by the time your hydras respond they have moved on,

[Kilizion]

[Doomslay]

thats more like it!

[Narw]

if he invests heavily in void ray's you should honestly see that. Keep overlord howering at protoss base as long as possible, poke his front with zergling's. If you see something like 3/4 gateways, 3 gateways + robo, or anything in lines of this you can safely assume there wont be any void rays. If you see ONLY 1 gateway + cybernetic core get ready for double stargate void raid rush and make at least 3 queens + drop hydras den. When you survive his push (and there is no way to fail for it you prepared correctly) just leave 2-3 hydras in base and move with rest of your units and obliberate him. Dont remember when i failed last time to void raid push.

[Yoica]

OMG Narw what a link. That is a great anti-cheese! laughed so hard.

[Vorte]

Oh man that grinds my shit, asking for advice and then blowing it off. Hydralisks are ten time as costeffective and better against air than mutas are until you got 20 of them. So please, think a little before you reply.

[Kilizion]

You could just sit your hydras were you'll be vulnerable to attack like say your mineral line? Or your expansion or something, until you need to move them elsewere?

[Abyiss]

true true,

i do have a habit of leaving no units at my base.

i'll upload the replay, maybe you can throw me some hints.

Vorte- I am well aware hydras are more cost efficient then mutalisks .. i never said they where not.

i simply said they where very immobile. Which they are.

[Vorte]

[kagemoth]

Vorte how do i get that sig. I tried to make one but its not working out so well

[Abyiss]

loves!!
xxx

[Palmar]

true true,

i do have a habit of leaving no units at my base.

i'll upload the replay, maybe you can throw me some hints.

Vorte- I am well aware hydras are more cost efficient then mutalisks .. i never said they where not.

i simply said they where very immobile. Which they are.

I think your problem may be one of the following:

a: make more drones
b: spend your money
c: don't get supply capped

[Vorte]

Vorte how do i get that sig. I tried to make one but its not working out so well

I could make it for you but I can't seem to find your battlenet profile..

[kagemoth]

hm. im kagemoFF

[Hugman]

true true,

i do have a habit of leaving no units at my base.

i'll upload the replay, maybe you can throw me some hints.

Vorte- I am well aware hydras are more cost efficient then mutalisks .. i never said they where not.

i simply said they where very immobile. Which they are.

I think your problem may be one of the following:

a: make more drones
b: spend your money
c: don't get supply capped

You don't have enough units. Pay attention Palmar, you could learn something: build more units.