Mafia - The story of Edgeville - Town Square

[Vorte]

You sendt a pm to yourself about a raider missing a raid?..

[Daekesh]

I sent a pm to myself to test to see if that error message came up.  Did it several times during that debug session.  I got palmar to send me messages, too.  The error message popped up once after i'd sent a message to myself, but not on further messages.

[Vorte]

I'm talking about the first one, not during the debug session.. Are you done walking around the porrage now?

[Daekesh]

I was reading and then replying to a pm and an error message came up during that.  It came up again when I was sending a message to myself to try and track down the problem.  What's the problem?

[Vorte]

Aha, well thanks for making that clear NOW.. I still believe you're mafia, regardless of your forum warlockism. Awaiting more mafia to make fun of me now!

[Tyler]

Thats all very good vorte, but I don't think it sits well. If you think I'm the mob why copy my post style and even some phrases. This attempt at mirroring is probably because you know I am innocent. You want to fake post like an innocent villager.

I like the way you have at least 7 probable mafia. You know its only 5 but are just trying to spread the blame round a bit. I like the half hearted attempy to help out your friend Arches, who you are pretty much throwing to the wolves with a shrug as you know he has messed up.

The best part is asking for protection. That final mirror has me convinced you are mob scum! Still the text wall should mean you survive longer than the others. Non-posters are the ones we wanna lynch first.

[Shiftey]

I have to agree with tyler there, add to that equation the fact you were trying to get people talk on teamspeak and figure out who's a blue (as a probable target for mafia), it definitely adds to the possibility.

[Hugman]

Oh good!

People are finally making intelligent posts now. Was getting depressed that I was the only real one making serious posts yesterday, and all it got me was lots of votes at the end. I guess I was too over eager on the first day for some town success.

Excellent post Vorte and Tyler.

Ill give my two cents on the current states of the players:

  Ino and Ezzardo. I believe that they were killed for being too quiet, which made the Mob suspect they were blues attempting to lay low. Kinda sucks we lost a blue first night, but this is what happens when you don't do much first day, it looks suspicious. Since they weren't the only two people who were rather quiet, it kinda makes me suspicious of the quiet ones that weren't killed (people like Kawe and Shankski and possibly Dell) as they wouldn't have been hit if they were mobsters being quiet.

  Arches. That Arches he's so hot right now. Seems to be getting a lot of "Arches is definitely Mafia!" posts, though I haven't seen anything actually suspicious from him. However, the big weirdness he has done, is some flowery "Doc save me!" post, which he did after he got an accusation from Gaieos that he said something on the irc logs which indicates he is Mafia. He then points the finger at Vorte, saying he suspects Vorte is the mobster who will get him killed. Now the day after, Vorte posts and says he has no reason to suspect Arches.

   That whole thing is fucking weird, and I am sure if we keep poking about on these posts, we can shakedown a clear Mafia monkey.

   First off, Gaieos. Your accusation that Arches is Mob because of something he said in irc, needs either to be clearly clarified, or posted so we can all can see what went down, which caused you to accuse him, and change your vote to him. If you don't or your what you post seems a little weird, of has holes, you just became an extremely  likely Mafioso.
   
   Secondly, Arches himself. You need to speak up and either do a very good job of explaining your weird actions, accusations and stuff said on irc, or frankly, you are a good candidate to be lynched .


   And then finally Vorte. I seem to remember you saying stuff in Irc about suspecting Arches as Mafioso, and even directly accusing him of being so, though, the weird thing is, I cannot find anything actually posted to that effect from you, and I do remember you saying such on irc. Now, today, we get you "indifferent about Arches". This seems like quite a change of opinion... and it looks extremely suspicious to me, as such a change without logical back up, looks like a mobster switching his targets, after a couple of mob kills. I say this, even after you made quite a logical post, and then called for me to get the Doc protection (which in itself, is either a good indication of you being a townine, or a Mafioso wanting to waste one, on a person he knows isn't the cop). I am teeter-tottering between thinking you are Mob or town, and you need to speak up and defend your actions.

Anyway This has been quite a long post already, and I will go over my other suspicions a bit later, so not to swamp you with a massive post of doom.

[kawe]

Uh Hug, I think that pretty much defines massive post of doom. Like, your third one. I've been sharing my suspicions with a couple of people now and ideally get enough information to safely share more of as the day goes on. The profiling you've been doing is, I think, the correct approach at least. Your textwalls out-of-nowhere are still pretty suspect to me especially when you're not dead, so I'll come out and say that I'm thinking you're either a great villager or a great mafia player.

With Grax I'm pretty completely unsure of where I stand. Not calling for a doc, but claiming to be one on day 1 in irc right off the bat is peculiar behaviour. Arches and Rucious also on the weirdo list for pretty obvious reasons.

Vorte is a little peculiar. Claims to have everything worked out quite confidently.

[delling2]

For what it's worth, the 'what are users doing on the forum?' page is not always accurate or up to date. Sometimes it takes a few seconds/minutes for it to update -- you can be on the home page, but it can show you doing something else. No idea what Kesh's 'unknown action' was -- I've never seen that before. I'd just call it a temporary glitch

[Vorte]

Thats all very good vorte, but I don't think it sits well. If you think I'm the mob why copy my post style and even some phrases. This attempt at mirroring is probably because you know I am innocent. You want to fake post like an innocent villager.

I like the way you have at least 7 probable mafia. You know its only 5 but are just trying to spread the blame round a bit. I like the half hearted attempy to help out your friend Arches, who you are pretty much throwing to the wolves with a shrug as you know he has messed up.

The best part is asking for protection. That final mirror has me convinced you are mob scum! Still the text wall should mean you survive longer than the others. Non-posters are the ones we wanna lynch first.

Why would I not copy your style? It was a clean way to do it, I'd like everyone to post their thoughts!(I posted that already) Fake post? What's fake about it? I am, unlike you, an innocent villager, I do not play your mind games..

Arches is special, I know the guy through and through, and as I already said, he's either a ninja or a blue. I'm failing to see how me saying this is "helping" Arches.. Don't see what's wrong with being suspicious of more than 5 people as mafia? I'm not denying my gut-feeling can be wrong, am I?

The last part of your accusations against me is just sad.. because I want protection for calling out TTaM as the mafia he is, me myself become a mafia in your eyes? Try me! Lynch TTaM tonight to see his true colours!

[kawe]

A lot of people called out TTaM, I think you were the only one to call for protection because of that though. Also, if we lynch TTaM and he's mafia - which is something I actually agree with you on - that doesn't in any way make you exempt from being mafia like you're trying to imply it would.

-Join in on calls against someone who seems likely mafia
-Demand protection against mafia when no one else does despite doing the same as them
-Demand lynching of TTaM as though it somehow tests your... mafianess? mafiosity?

Not playing mind games?

[Vorte]

 
   Secondly, Arches himself. You need to speak up and either do a very good job of explaining your weird actions, accusations and stuff said on irc, or frankly, you are a good candidate to be lynched .

   And then finally Vorte. I seem to remember you saying stuff in Irc about suspecting Arches as Mafioso, and even directly accusing him of being so, though, the weird thing is, I cannot find anything actually posted to that effect from you, and I do remember you saying such on irc. Now, today, we get you "indifferent about Arches". This seems like quite a change of opinion... and it looks extremely suspicious to me, as such a change without logical back up, looks like a mobster switching his targets, after a couple of mob kills. I say this, even after you made quite a logical post, and then called for me to get the Doc protection (which in itself, is either a good indication of you being a townine, or a Mafioso wanting to waste one, on a person he knows isn't the cop). I am teeter-tottering between thinking you are Mob or town, and you need to speak up and defend your actions.

I had a look through the logs aswell, this is what I found..


[22:36] <Archeslaptop> I'm quite sure voorte is mafia
[22:36] <delling> gogo!
[22:37] <Vorte> Awesome, I just lost to emptyy playing protoss for the 5th time or something
[22:37] <Vorte> PROTOS XXDXDXD
[22:37] <+^Irony^> [TS] * Joins: Veilas
[22:37] <Vorte> You're probably the only one dumb enough to think I'm mafia, yeah
[22:37] <Shiftey> or maybe you are trying to pretend Vorte
[22:37] <Shiftey> LYNCH HIM!!!!!
[22:38] <Vorte> hahah

[23:13] <Archeslaptop> Everyone change their vote to vorte!
[23:13] <Hugman> mafia!
[23:14] <Archeslaptop> I had emptyy run in and check if vorte were mafia
[23:16] <Vorte> Emptyy actually knows what I am
[23:17] <Vorte> So.. better luck next time!
[23:17] <Archeslaptop> They also know what I am, so if you weren't mafia they would've told me!
[23:17] <Archeslaptop> Scum I say
[23:18] <Vorte> You should try acting less like an open book.

I don't relaly know how to search with irc and stuff, but this appears to be the only confrontations on irc between me and arches. Arches started a blame-game after his slip up where he admitted he had special powers. And since he was oh so afraid to be killed, I suppose the possibility of him being a ninja is out the window..

Aaaand, seing as TTaM just changed his vote to me, I believe this should turn into crystal for most

[Daekesh]

I'm pretty sure that log implies that one of you is Mafia.  I don't think it's Arch.

[Vorte]

A lot of people called out TTaM, I think you were the only one to call for protection because of that though. Also, if we lynch TTaM and he's mafia - which is something I actually agree with you on - that doesn't in any way make you exempt from being mafia like you're trying to imply it would.

-Join in on calls against someone who seems likely mafia
-Demand protection against mafia when no one else does despite doing the same as them
-Demand lynching of TTaM as though it somehow tests your... mafianess? mafiosity?

Not playing mind games?

I'm not joining in on calls, I made an entire post expressing MY views.
I did not demand lynching, it is obviously up to the good town itself, we are a democracy! I do however believe protection is best spendt on the most outspoken of the village, and as such, I believe placing protection on me is a good move.
Lynching TTaM and having him revealed as a ninja will not test my mafianess, but it will prove that I was right in this case, and I'm probably right in many of the other cases too... perhaps your time is better spendt analyzing the town as a whole, rather at making small dagger pinches at me for speaking my mind!