Mafia II - Story of the Iron Edge - Ship Deck

[Archz]

Fine I'll start the next game with "whoho I'm a private don't kill me!" and let them pick of the blues that are trying to fly under the radar

[Shiftey]

WELL THEN

##Vote: Shiftey

since you are a rebel scum

Please do explain your reasoning so everyone can follow your train of thought. All votes must be transparent, so people can have as many information as possible to make rational decisions.

[Archz]

I think Grish misunderstood your deductive reasoning :p

[Doomslay]

Arch could be learning from his mistakes and almost triple bluffing us.
For example him acting retarded would give him the excuse to say "why would i be so stupid and get myself killed" thus covering himself.

Maybe he's being smart this time and decided to act overly stupid.

[Hugman]

I.... just... No.

I am done talking to Arches.

Gonna work on who I think should be Captain.

Now that I think about it, I always get the image of a "Warhammer 40k Commissar" when I think of this role.

You know like, using his day lynch and going "In the name of the Emperor I execute you for Treason!" and BAMM! Headshot.

[Sintrael]

I cant tell if Shiftey just has a vendetta toward kawe for some reason or actually has something logical to say, that post up there didnt actually have any substance to it Shiftey... you just outlined what Kawe has done so far which i'm pretty sure everyone can see.

@Doomslay, early voting promotes talk, makes people react (or not react). It gives us more information, which we are sorely lacking.

@Arches, give up what? you havent defended urself u just qq that people are "reading into things" and saying that ur a bad player... (you giving up is kinda strengthening that idea no?)


After consideration i'm changing my vote to arches as well, i think hugman hit the nail on the head that arches is just going to be a liability either way.

Its a bit of an odd situation we find ourselves in i feel, i still support kawe for captain as i think he'd make an extremely strong one and i dont think he's mafia, yet. I also feel that getting a captain early would be beneficial as we can somewhat 'direct' mafia play by making himself the only clear target. But i feel that waiting for the first night to end would reveal some information as to whether its a good idea to make kawe captain as it would indeed be catastrophic if he was a rebel, as mouse pointed out. On that note, i would support mouse for captain as well should she gain popularity, i like how sensible she's being.

I'm not at all saying that vdti would make a bad captain, but i am seriously getting suspicious of everyone thats voting for him as captain. 3 of the 4 voters (delling, et, kesh) said they support him based on the fact he said that protecting the captain by jailing him is a good idea. Does this not seem incredibly weird? Jailing the captain is the ONLY way to protect him, is there anyone playing the game that doesnt realise this most basic of principles? Having 3 people go "oh, what a good idea, i never would have thought of that incredibly simple idea myself so i'll vote for him" (obviously i'm exaggerating slightly, but to me thats what it sounds like) It soudns to me like kesh, delling et are trying to sway votes toward vdti.

However, again, i have no actual evidence that this is the case, its just speculation on my part, read it as you will.

##Unvote: TTaM
##Vote: Arches

[Tyler]

All I did was to stir up some heat trying to get myself killed during the night like a proper Private.

/facepalm

Acting like a Jedi will not get you killed at night, it will get you lynched. You are bad either way Archz. If I was rebel scum I would try as hard as I could to keep you around. 

[Grishnag]

WELL THEN

##Vote: Shiftey

since you are a rebel scum

Please do explain your reasoning so everyone can follow your train of thought. All votes must be transparent, so people can have as many information as possible to make rational decisions.

it would probably be a wasted vote to vote for shiftey at this stage and i may change it... since we still have 48 hours to go

[Shiftey]

Just for the record, I am in fact running for captain.

Also I suggest you check the posts of all the candidates so far.

[Sintrael]

forgot my colon -.-

##vote: Arches

[Sintrael]

ALFJ:LGAJG

FORGOT BOLD AND CAPITAL V

##Vote: Arches

[kawe]

Not needing a majority changes nothing regarding the lack of downsides for voting early as town. Voting records are important, but the only reason you'd put so much stock in the day1 non-final voting record that you won't cast one until you have to is if you're paranoid, scum, or don't fully understand the game.

There's no reason to tip-toe around sharing your suspicions of people as though we're stepping on eggshells and will lose if we mislynch one on the first day. If we're wrong on the first day it's fine. We learn, we keep going, and we don't succumb to doubt and the excuses that are made - which, by the way, are a reasonable tell.

Eetion: Things like "this guy seems like an Imperial, but what if he's just a rebel who is pretending to act this way because that's how an imperial will act" is a particularly slippery slope of thought pattern, and one that will get us nowhere. Think about it - if you don't trust people because you think they seem trustworthy and it could be a trick... you get the idea. When it comes to captaincy votes, it's pretty much as you say. If you're keen for not-me as captain, I suggest we support Mouseh.

Shanks: Being so concerned with rebels, of which there are a measly 6, swaying our 21 votes, 22 on at least the first day counting double vote from captain, is at most vaguely valid. But silly. It is also very peculiar to be worried about looking suspicious if you're innocent - see what I mentioned before about conviction. Imperials should have no real concern about being lynched right now - if one of us is mislynched, it's okay at this stage.

Hugman: That's fairly sound logic, though I think Yoica's concern is reasonable enough too. I've been expecting your posts all day after last game, good to finally see some.

Once again, remember, as an Imperial, you do not and in fact should not act with concern about looking suspicious. This applies especially to voting. Doomslay, remember that voting early does no harm to the town, as you can change vote, and has potential harm to the rebels. This can only be good for us.

[shankski]

Shanks: It is also very peculiar to be worried about looking suspicious if you're innocent - see what I mentioned before about conviction. Imperials should have no real concern about being lynched right now - if one of us is mislynched, it's okay at this stage.

I'm not sure what I've done to be worried about looking suspicious? Please enlighten me

[delling2]

OK, you talk a lot of sense. And I admit, I don't know the rules of the game very well (I didn't last very long last time, and I still haven't read any strategy guides... will do that tonight.)

##Vote: Arches

I'm still weary of voting for you as captain, though. Too many eggs in one basket. It's like... the ultimate high-risk-high-reward gamble.

I'm leaning towards Mouseh atm, unless Vdti rummages up something amazing tonight.

[delling2]

Fukkn...

Vote:: Arches