Mafia II - Story of the Iron Edge - Ship Deck

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

your theories have always been good in the past...

[Eetion]

Grax trying, it still isnt a 50/50 if we vote for shiftey or Emptyy.
The things that matters now is - Will emptyy follow us, Imperials, or will he lynch another.

I dont quite see what delling did that was so suspicious tbh. Intrinsic was a logical choice imho. As mentioned earlier I did not see any of the main suspects as rebels and atleast it is confirmed that ttam was innocent.

It is like your trying to save Dellings skin, do you know something we don't know Grax?
If you have info that the majority do not know, it is possible to share it so that we can get better conclussions, for now your only getting your self looking more suspicious all of a sudden trying to get votetrain away from Delling

[delling2]

Eetion, you continually write these very grand-sounding posts, but really you're just parroting Tyler, or Shiftey, or whoever else has recently written something intelligent.

Leave the analysts to do their stuff, and just nod or shake your head.

I have 7 votes currently, out of 22 (23?) players still in the game. You are not in a 'majority'. You are a plurality that's riding Tyler's move to get Emptyy to shoot me, and then to lynch Emptyy.

Try to think your own thoughts and come up with some original content (rich coming from me, I know).

[Eetion]

There is no need to invent the deeppan twice if you already think someone is on to something.
Sorry Delling but your again, in my eyes, just trying to get attention of your back.

[delling2]

Well, no shit Eetion, I don't want to die.

Or should I welcome the attention on my back? Is that some pro imperial play that I don't know about?

[Tyler]

If all else fails go down the personal attacks route eh Grax?

Just to recap Delling has made by far the most posts but said very little. One post he said "Lynch Intrisinic, he hasn?t posted anything useful", but taking 20 lines to do it. The other post he said "One of Emptyy or Shiftey is a Rebel. Lynch Shiftey!", omitting any possibility of Emptty being a Rebel. He has said nothing more.

Maybe though, you should ignore what I think and explain which of Shiftey or Emptyy you think we should lynch? Or do you think we should coin toss?

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

you do seem quite useless eetion. Instead of actually argueing why I am wrong, you accuse me of being in league with delling.

Last game we learned that baseless accusations are useless and that we need a proper basis for lynching people - so we dont lynch 3 innocents in a row.

Right now the most suspicious thing delling did was to start the intrinsic vote. Which by common logic was a pretty logical thing to do, which was why people followed his vote. It was a sound argument...

[delling2]

I picked Shiftey because of this post: http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6168.msg101255#msg101255 -- which people have said caused them to vote for Kesh on day 1.

I also said Shiftey because of the conversations I had with Kesh on day 1. (More info to follow, when I get to write my big post.)

I agree, Emptyy's actions are suss (as I said on IRC yesterday). But my data doesn't correlate with him getting Kesh killed. He MIGHT have got Kesh killed -- I just can't support that with what I know.

[Shiftey]

For Graxlos, here's the sound arguments we made:

http://www.iron-edge.co.uk/index.php?topic=6168.msg101767#msg101767

[Archz]

I really can't make sense of the Shiftey/Emptyy situtation. Shiftey and Emptyy both knew that the other one knew, so if one of them were rebel, they must've seen the suspicion coming back to them. AND why kill Ino? If I were rebel-Emptyy/Shiftey I would've killed the other one together with Daekesh.

I think the rebel got lucky and we're close to going down a very wrong path. So I say that we should lynch someone else, and not force Emptyy to use his kill just yet.

Crap now I'm late for work, gotta run

[Gaeios(Graxlos)]

Did shiftey or Emptyy tell anyone else about ttam???

[Sintrael]

Just a quick note on lynching Emptyy,

I think we should wait for emptyy to at least use his insta-lynch before we decide anything about him, if he lynches who we want him to, or he manages to lynch a rebel etc. then it makes him more trustworthy.

Unlike the other suspects we have, emptyy can actually prove his innocence (or guilt)

If we lynch him before he uses/refuses to use his lynch then its a waste.

[delling2]

I knew that Kesh knew about Shiftey (and vice-versa) -- but I didn't get as far as finding out that Emptyy was also part of the triangle/square.

[Sintrael]

No grax

(obviously he cld have told the rebels if he is one)

[kawe]

How exactly can Emptyy prove his innocence or guilt? Being wrong would make him guilty?