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July 28, 2011, 12:44:41 pm
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Offline Pelev

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Help from UK please!
« on: July 28, 2011, 12:44:41 pm »
Maybe you guys know about some countries internet usage limitations. Most of them has no access even to google, youtube, youporn:)...........etc. This point idea flush on my mind to build a global vpn server. Me network engineer and my brother lives in england as computer programer working on this project about a month.

We have some trouble with poor and expensive connection in London. I am looking for a fiber optic company with lowest price and good service around Kent/London. Best price we found yet 50mbit/5mbit 35 p/mount! I will be happy for any kind of advice about faster bandwith cheaper/same price.

I will be in London about a month long to configure servers (I believe it will be about end of august - doesnt stop raidin :) )and hope to meet some guildy there)


and beside all of this, I will be happy to share experience with some networker about DDWRT firmware.

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July 28, 2011, 01:09:01 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 01:09:01 pm »
Wouldnt such countries block such a vpn service as well?
I mean there are tons of such services already like hotspotshield.com
and in most countries you dont need more than opendns.com

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July 28, 2011, 01:38:39 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 01:38:39 pm »
To my knowledge the only ISP providing fibre optics in the UK is Virgin.

Should also say that a lot of ISPs offer line bonding effectively doubling your speed.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 01:40:36 pm by shankski »

July 28, 2011, 01:40:51 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 01:40:51 pm »
I'm sure BT would provide fibre for a business
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July 28, 2011, 01:41:24 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 01:41:24 pm »
fuck BT in the face

but ye kesh u are right BT offer fibre optics too
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 01:45:00 pm by shankski »

July 28, 2011, 02:16:10 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 02:16:10 pm »
Wouldnt such countries block such a vpn service as well?
I mean there are tons of such services already like hotspotshield.com
and in most countries you dont need more than opendns.com

opendns.com is a solution for dns filtering, just to solve ip lookup, but in some countries there are content filtering, you even cant bypass it by a web proxy, filters lookup in to tcp-ip packet headers.

VPN, specially openVPN is unblockable, only the way to block it = complate forbiden internet and use a national intranet; actually this is what iran works on atm.

I will check the price/service of BT and virgin, thanx for advice

PS: anyone knows about is there a satalite internet service provider in UK?

July 28, 2011, 02:50:42 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 02:50:42 pm »
I think there are satellite internet providers, but I don't think we have any 'low level' satellite providers -- just the ones that use dial-up for upstream and satellite for downstream. Could be wrong, though.
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July 28, 2011, 03:16:59 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 03:16:59 pm »
VPN, specially openVPN is unblockable, only the way to block it = complate forbiden internet and use a national intranet; actually this is what iran works on atm.

Can they not just block whatever ips are running the vpn on your end?  The vpn from their pc has to connect to something...
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July 28, 2011, 04:58:36 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 04:58:36 pm »
VPN, specially openVPN is unblockable, only the way to block it = complate forbiden internet and use a national intranet; actually this is what iran works on atm.

Can they not just block whatever ips are running the vpn on your end?  The vpn from their pc has to connect to something...

Yes they can, but we have a client side software, its gonna try to connect 20 different ip from an ip pool, and this pool will be refreshed mounthly, in brocracy to forbit an ip takes long time due to paper work. Me also not dreaming a very big business, 1000 customer world wide pays 6-7 $ each month is enough to make me play wow without work:) so domain of the company is not gonna be big threat on goverments regulation.

I think there are satellite internet providers, but I don't think we have any 'low level' satellite providers -- just the ones that use dial-up for upstream and satellite for downstream. Could be wrong, though.

yes Delling, I have been checking skyDSL from germany, they have service providing from hotbird satalite, but upstream is dsl, and in the basics of vpn your server need download as much as your upload, useless!


July 28, 2011, 10:38:23 pm
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 10:38:23 pm »
It would be easy enough to get a pool of IP addresses at a UK data centre (I have about 128!)

And it only costs about ?50/month to put a server in a rack with lots and lots of bandwidth.

If you can get customers, it's definitely a good way to make money.
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July 29, 2011, 01:01:32 am
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2011, 01:01:32 am »
which company you are working with Delling? I will check it out, I wasnt planing on a dedicated server, because they rent same physical device to 10 customer by virtualization tech, and it lower the performans a lot. But leaving our own in a server farm would be best solution for cheaper internet cost.

July 29, 2011, 01:05:41 am
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Re: Help from UK please!
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2011, 01:05:41 am »
It depends on what you want... you can either rent a VPS (shared), or you can get a dedicated server. It's about ?30/month for a good VPS, and about ?50-60 for a low-end dedicated server (but probably enough for this kind of VPN service... at least until you grow a bit :)

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http://www.rapidswitch.com/
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