Mafia IV - Lord of the Rings -

[Tyler]

We are going to lose this game unless we get some posts on the go...

I'm going to vote for Grish as he has given us nothing.

[Nachmanun]

I'll write together something during lunch, ye of little faith.

[Hugman]

Right now I am deciding between Grish or Nach, generally based upon how useless they have been. Either they are Red, or useless, minimal posting green.

Tyler worries me, because aside from the one decent post he night one, there hasn't really been any proper town-winning-focused activity. Even that post he did, didn't really give anything solid on who he feels are Red, more of a short description of each player, with nothing useful we could take from it. Also during my whole "PALMAR IS RED, AND MUST DIE" phase, he posted nothing... and that I didn't expect. Ether he agreed or disagreed with my stance on Palmar, but normally he would have posted something about it. One post Palmar did which didn't get a reply was:

Yeah, now we think about lynching you tyler.

Give me your top 3 scum reads in the game.

Which never got a reply. I know he is busy with work, but even so, for someone who has been in pretty much all the mafia games we have done, this is him basically doing nothing. He has proven before in other games, he is much more capable as town than he has been.

Ill put my vote on either Grish or Nach, and give Tyler a chance to explain, but he doesn't currently look green to me.

[Tyler]

I did better than give my top three reds, I ranked all the players in order. So Nach, ET and Grish are my top three suspects.

I'm currently voting for Grish as Nach has at least posted that he will post... ET is also posting.

[Hugman]

Ok then.

We faithlessly await Nach's post.

[Hugman]

Oh and Maix, I know you new to mafia games, and the forums, but you need to make a post, going over your thoughts, and voting reasoning. Otherwise you just look Red, or a Green that we can afford to miss-lynch.

Doesn't have to be brilliant, just so we know what you are thinking, and if you are trying to make the town win.

[mayx]

According to the reasons and proof that I understood just skimming through the thread, it looks like Nach and Grish seem the most red to me, I won't be surprised if they both get lynched just out of curiosity. It's probably a dumb low quality commentary from me, so excuse me, but truth is simple, however it's a tough task to quote all sources.
Voting from people until now almost makes sense to me, only it seemed like Surim was from the good guys, not sure why 2 people go voting for him, however I will be curious to see what his side actually is.
However, lynching TTaM just out of curiosity didn't make the majority happy, expectations were different, therefore every lynch just out of curiousity is a minor chance to catch red, so probably critical reasoning should prevail in our thoughts and decisions.

[Grilldyret]

I just came to realise a flaw in my accusations towards Nach.
If he were a red, wouldn't he then be fully aware of that TTaM was trying to pull some crazy stunt drawing out reds? It seems to me like Nach "fell for it", but he can't be faulted for that as he wouldn't have made that post if he knew TTaM was a townie.

There's always a chance he brainfarted though, thinking that it would be a good opportunity to get other people to give up blues

As to Grish, his lacklustre(spelling?) enthusiasm for this game has been shining through all the way as this setup is too far from what his nerd eyes considered correct lore-wise. Not sure if this is to be considered a valid reason for not providing input, though, as the game itself revolves very little around the names and roles of the people, and more about flushing out those bad guys. Would like to see a post from both Grish and Nach with some opinions on who they think are scum.

[Grishnag]

ME3 is better than i expected so i have been playing that mostly when im behind a pc
that and other things that i shouldnt mention in this thread because it will derail it to nothing is the reason for my lack of posts (queue people assuming im a red now because i give an explenation)

so you want to know who i think is scum currently grilly? Surim
why him? well he is one of the few that supported the RNG vote palmar brought up when he should know better that it never favors the town ever
And nach because he from what i read was the only one that actualy was oke with giving kesh a blue player in order to get a red

as for the others
Grilly: dont think he is a red

Maix: dont know about him yet he seems to be supporting surim
if surim turns out to be red he will get up on my scumlist though

Tyler: he made very few posts in this thread so i find it hard to judge him though if i had red or blue killing powers i would just shoot him anyway (i bet you they are going to kill tyler tonight to make me look red that is if i dont get lynched)

Eetion: he seems to have a good quality for a politician; he can type alot and not say anything (could also be a good scum trait) but for now i have him pegged as green

Hugman: most likely a green out of the people here imo

Skymunken seems to be eager to agree with surim and if he turns out to be red sky will have his scumlevel raised

i feel like i am missing someone so point that out if i have

[Skymunken]

What, Im agreeing with Surim? I just pointed him out as red and voted for him!

[Nachmanun]

I just came to realise a flaw in my accusations towards Nach.
If he were a red, wouldn't he then be fully aware of that TTaM was trying to pull some crazy stunt drawing out reds? It seems to me like Nach "fell for it", but he can't be faulted for that as he wouldn't have made that post if he knew TTaM was a townie.

I actually just thought it'd be a great opportunity to make use of any blues that just have that 1 thing they do, then turn into a villager.

Turns out that was a dead end though, so no need to be punching that old horse.

I can't really point a whole lot of things out from the info we know yet, but I agree with Skymonkey when he says that we should look at who benefitted from Palmars death. To me that looks alot like Hugman, but he's playing a great villager thus far, keeping an open mind (apart from the 100% sure palmar = scum bit) and I don't suspect him more than I suspect any of the other "could be's".

I do however think Grish is on to something; Maix defends Surim without really telling us why, other than: "Voting from people until now almost makes sense to me, only it seemed like Surim was from the good guys, not sure why 2 people go voting for him", but his posts seem somewhat clean so I wouldn't go out on a bend to lynch him either.

Other than that I can't really feel any bad guy vibes from anyone, I'll reread the entire thread in a bit and see if I can get any other feeling from someone, but to that point I'm still highly uncertain of whom I would vote lynch for.

[Cwave]

All of a sudden, a loud boom was heared across all of middle earth.
A blue, divine glow rained down upon all the living things.
Birds stopped singing for a while, the deers halted, the ants sat down.
Even the vile orc warmachine grinded to a screeching halt as a booming, divine voice slammed down on middle earth.

The fellowship could hear three, loud, words:

NOT NACHMANUN, RETARDS

4 hours till deadline

[Eetion]

Well that is certainly enough proof for me to take down my vote on Nach.

[spoiler]
at about 2.00 mins

somehow i think this might be the answer to what have just happened
[/spoiler]

Im gonna take a short while to reconsider my vote.

[Nachmanun]

So, if anyone keeps their vote on me after this, I will consider them 100% scummy scum scum and drive a hard campaign to have your head.

[Grishnag]

wait wait wait you can tell cwave to scream at people to not vote for you?

thats... kinda cool

wish i could do that

that also removes any suspicion i had for you